I think its interesting how a lot of people feel the hyperion NEEDS 5 mids to be able to run an active tank - and at the same time a lot of people seem to think the megathron NEEDS its 7 lows back.

As far as the dominix and its old unpredictability, I expect that to be completely preserved. It won't be capable of the highest damage numbers of any battleship now, but it can still fit blasters across the top and run mag stabs along with drone damage amps and heavy drones.

Yes, what a lovely number it makes in the "Show info" window.

Of course, to actually HIT anything out at that range, you'd need several Drone Link Augmentors (4, I think), and since the Dominix has a base targeting range of 70km, you'll need to fit 2 Sensor Boosters with targeting range scripts, or a few signal amplifiers.

So, wow, after using 4 high slots and 3 mid slots (or 1 mid and 3-4 lows), you can finally target and hit something at 150km. Oh and then you'll be doing kinetic damage, in fairly low amounts.

Whoop de frickin doo.

We hear you guys about the Hyp - I think we're going to have a day to let the feedback keep settling and give us some time to talk it over and we'll give you an update tomorrow.

There's some good suggestions in here, but its not a simple problem so I don't want us committed to anything too quickly.

Thanks for the feedback

Heavy drones mentioned with the Dominix.

I am concerned that CCP still seem to think anyone really uses them.

The plan here was to fill in both ships' strength. The hyp would provide more power in pure tank and dps by having an extra low for mag stab or TE or resists, and it would sacrifice some utility. The mega would have more utility, again, playing to its strength - and the increased damage from turrets would make up for the lost low somewhat.

One last thing to mention: Personally, I really think sentry drones should move some, even if its only to return to bay. We need to talk some more about this internally and look at ways it can actually be implemented, but a change to this effect could have a very positive impact on the Dominix and I don't think its a very unrealistic goal.

I completely agree!
It would be nice if they were permanently orbiting our ship, unable to leave that flight pattern but still hit stuff.
I'm not sure what the tracking ramifications of that would be though.

or perhaps only allow them to move when they are recalled to the ship.
Either way, big Plus for me on that

What I want to see is Gallente having a viable option for fleets. It would have to be either the Megathron or Hyperion, as drones to not mesh well with fleets.

Hi again Gallente friends!

We've just had a meeting with the balance team to weigh all your feedback and go over our options for this ship line. We have come up with some new solutions which I think you will be happy about.

Look for an update with the new versions in the next day or two, we are going to spend some time tuning them so that we are less likely to have to make even more changes afterwards.

Thanks again for the input!

Seriously, nobody care about trakcing and drone optimal since drones boat are rarely use in fleet, small gang and PVE (drone get aggro now).

Domis have 3 sets of sentries. Slowcats have innumerably more. Domis move. Slowcats do not. Domis have a tenth of the EHP and don't do as well repping each other.

Let me teach you about sentry drones in fleet pvp.

Keep carriers out of the equation, we are talking about droneboat battleships, mkay? I can't think of a single case when droneboat battleships had been used in a fleet.

The only problem is that fleets need moving, that is the biggest problem with drone boats, sentries dont follow.

Maybe it is time for CCP to look into it.

Just "stop moving your domi" isn't really good advice. There are plenty of reasons why you should, would or have to move. EHP is very relevant for any BS platform, especially one that is immobile as you suggest!

Heavy drones are more useful in smaller scale battles where the enemies are not spread out or at long ranges. Warping on top of people with short range BS is useful but sentries are better in big battles when you don't need to worry about smaller ships.

I'm not saying that 150km with 600 dps and uber tracking isn't good. It is great. It's not fun but it's statistically great. On paper sentry domi fleets will be quite good, overpowered even.
For a short while.

Dominix
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You guys are complaining about a 50% optimal range and tracking bonus! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU? Its going to be overpowered.

But why aren't sentry Domis OP now? You can get the same range and tracking currently.

Nah drone boats in large scale pvp sux! Other ships are much more better only because of 1 reason, u cannot move if u get sentries out.

We've already done a Navy Domi Sentry fleet and this was before these changes. So uh. What are you talking about?

Dominix: The Ugly
The domi has always been a versatile boat and maybe the most versatile ship in the entire game. You never really knew how it was going to be fit until you engaged it which was its saving grace really, it also had great adaptability in the ever changing meta of eve online. The geddon has now taken away its role as a neuting drone boat (one of its best roles for small gangs) and the loss of the hybrid bonus has killed it in PVE and large fleets (although it was never very good in fleets anyway). The new domi looks like a bigger myrmidon without the tanking bonus which makes the myrmidon good. Maybe it should be the ship with that rep bonus instead of the hyp?

The Domi has gained: Freeing up mid-slots from OTLs we used to use for this role because....
we needed the midslots for tackle as a sniper... no wait.
we needed the midslots for more shield tank as a sniper... hmm, that's not right.

The versatility is not gone. Quit being narrow minded.

Because when we are sniping with the new drone range bonus, EWAR modules will be in range too right? I must have missed that EWAR range bonus...

I'm digging the proposed Domi.

I second this, Command ships are FAR FAR FAR more broke than any of the T1 BS were.